Johan Schioldann’s question to Samuel Gershon on his comment on Edward Shorter’s comment and Gershon’s answer
 
Johan Schioldann: History of the Introduction of Lithium into Medicine and Psychiatry:  Birth of Modern Psychopharmacology 1949.
Barry Blackwell’s Review

Thomas A. Ban to Johan Schioldann Feb 8, 2018 at 12:24 AM

You might have already noted that Sam Gershon’s comment on Edward Shorter’s comment on Barry Blackwell’sreview of your History of Lithium was posted today. We would be happy to post your comment on Sam’s comment.

Johan Schioldann to Thomas A. Ban Feb 13, 2018 at 4:28 AM

In Gershon’s comment to Shorter 4th section he writes: “another historical event intervened bychance……how this affected psychiatric affairs I do not know….(And Berrios?)…..Based on myextensive research of the Lange brothers I cannot recognize these events and it would be difficult in my commentto bypass it. I am a bit reluctant to ask Gershon directly, so do you see a solution to this dilemma?

Thomas A. Ban to Johan Schioldann Feb 14, 2018 at 2:36AM

Within INHN's frame of reference the right procedure would be to post both, your question to Sam Gershon and his reply to it. Regardless if you wish I will convey your request to him.

Johan Schioldann to Thomas A. Ban Feb 14, 2018 at 5:27 AM

Yes you can forward my question to Sam Gershon. It is the following statement that needs to be clarified: “Another historical event intervened by chance: at a major psychiatric congress where the Langes presented their recurrent depression findings - clinical issues, NO lithium story. At that meeting Kraepelin supported by another German psychiatrist, Berrios, presented a strong critique of their clinical concept of recurrent depression - no mention of lithium.”

Thomas A. Ban to Samuel Gershon Feb 15 at 1:23AM

Johan Schioldann intends to comment on your comment on Ned Shorter’s comment and sent me an e-mail today in which he writes:“Another historical event intervened by chance: at a major psychiatric congress where the Langes presented their recurrent depression findings - clinical issues, NO lithium story. At that meeting Kraepelin supported by another German psychiatrist, Berios, presented a strong critique of their clinical concept of recurrent depression - no mention of lithium.”

Samuel Gershon to Thomas A.Ban February 15 at 2:30 AM

Kraepelin took a very negative view of the Lange’s concepts of Recurrent Depression. His presentations against this work also carried with it a generally negative view of the Langes’, and because of Kraepelin’s influence on European psychiatry this was a major blow for them, This work is presented in detail in Schioldann’s book, on pages 82 thru 86.

May 24, 2018