<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
<!DOCTYPE html
     PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN"
     "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">
<html dir="ltr" xml:lang="en" lang="en" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
<!-- Added by HTTrack --><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html;charset=utf-8" /><!-- /Added by HTTrack -->
<head>

<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" />
<!-- 
	This website is powered by TYPO3 - inspiring people to share!
	TYPO3 is a free open source Content Management Framework initially created by Kasper Skaarhoj and licensed under GNU/GPL.
	TYPO3 is copyright 1998-2015 of Kasper Skaarhoj. Extensions are copyright of their respective owners.
	Information and contribution at http://typo3.org/
-->



<title>INHN: Mark S. Kramer’s response to Barry Blackwell’s reply to Mark Kramer’s comments</title>
<meta name="generator" content="TYPO3 4.5 CMS" />

<link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="IMAGES/STYLESHEET_9B1E31873F2366.CSS?1645000983" media="all" />



<script src="IMAGES/JAVASCRIPT_93077BB238F3E1.JS?1645000982" type="text/javascript"></script>


<link href="IMAGES/LAYOUT_3COL_STANDARD.CSS" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" /><!--[if lte IE 7]><link href="fileadmin/styles/patches/../01_layouts_basics/css/patches/patch_3col_standard.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" /><![endif]-->
<meta name="DC.title" content="Mark S. Kramer’s response to Barry Blackwell’s reply to Mark Kramer’s comments" />
<meta name="description" content="INHN" />
<meta name="DC.Description" content="INHN" />
<meta name="keywords" content="International Network for the History of Neuropsychopharmacology" />
<meta name="DC.Subject" content="International Network for the History of Neuropsychopharmacology" />
<meta name="copyright" content="Copyright INHN 2012-14" />
<meta name="DC.Rights" content="Copyright INHN 2012-14" />
<meta http-equiv="content-language" content="en" />
<meta name="DC.Language" scheme="NISOZ39.50" content="en" />
<link rev="made" href="mailto:inhn@inhn.org" />
<meta http-equiv="reply-to" content="inhn@inhn.org" />
<meta name="author" content="Gregers Wegener" />
<meta name="DC.Creator" content="Gregers Wegener" />
<meta name="rating" content="General" />
<meta name="date" content="2019-04-11T17:41:13+00:00" />
<meta name="DC.date" content="2019-04-11T17:41:13+00:00" />
<meta name="robots" content="index,follow" />
<meta name="revisit-after" content="7" />
<link rel="start" href="INDEX681A.HTM?id=1" />
<link rel="up" href="INDEXDF80.HTM?id=1720" />
<link rel="next" href="INDEX3FFF.HTM?id=1735" />
<link rel="prev" href="INDEX668D.HTM?id=1754" />
<link rel="canonical" href="INDEX722F.HTM?id=1783" />



</head>
<body id="pageUID-1783">


<div id="page_margins">
	<div id="page">
		<div id="header"><div class="tx-macinasearchbox-pi1">
		
<form action="https://inhn.org/index.php?id=5&amp;L=0" method="post" name="searchform" id="searchform">
<input name="tx_indexedsearch[sword]" type="text" value="Enter search word..." onclick="this.value=''" onblur="this.value='Enter search word...'" /><br />
<input type="hidden" name="tx_indexedsearch[_sections]" value="0" />
<input type="hidden" name="tx_indexedsearch[pointer]" value="0" />
<input type="hidden" name="tx_indexedsearch[ext]" value="0" />
<input type="hidden" name="tx_indexedsearch[lang]" value="0" />
</form>

	</div>
	<div id="topnav"><a class="skip" href="#navigation" title="Direkt zur Navigation springen">Zur Navigation springen</a><span class="hideme">.</span><a class="skip" href="#content" title="Direkt zum Content springen">Zum Content springen</a><span class="hideme">.</span><a href="INDEX3A9F.HTM?id=6" target="_self">Sitemap</a>&nbsp;&#124;&nbsp;<a href="INDEXD61C.HTM?id=5" target="_self">Search</a>&nbsp;&#124;&nbsp;<a href="INDEX65E4.HTM?id=kontakt" target="_self">Contact</a>&nbsp;&#124;&nbsp;<a href="INDEXB7B8.HTM?id=204" target="_self">About INHN</a></div><a href="INDEX2999.HTM?id=202"><img class="headImg1" src="IMAGES/COMPANY_LOGO.GIF" alt="" title="Home" width="598" height="100" /></a></div>
		<div id="nav"><a id="navigation" name="navigation"></a><div id="nav_main" class="hlist"><ul><li><a href="INDEX2999.HTM?id=202" target="_self"><span>Home</span></a></li><li><a href="INDEX7EFD.HTM?id=479" target="_self"><span>Dictionary</span></a></li><li><a href="INDEX3E5C.HTM?id=374" target="_self"><span>Drugs</span></a></li><li><a href="INDEXDBB1.HTM?id=565" target="_self"><span>Photos</span></a></li><li><a href="INDEXD919.HTM?id=342" target="_self"><span>Profiles</span></a></li><li id="current"><a href="INDEXAF9F.HTM?id=355" target="_self"><span>Controversies</span></a></li><li><a href="INDEXD122.HTM?id=641" target="_self"><span>Discoveries</span></a></li><li><a href="INDEX1F24.HTM?id=384" target="_self"><span>Books</span></a></li><li><a href="INDEX3958.HTM?id=467" target="_self"><span>Biographies</span></a></li><li><a href="INDEX677F.HTM?id=642" target="_self"><span>Perspectives</span></a></li><li><a href="INDEX8C00.HTM?id=343" target="_self"><span>Archives</span></a></li><li><a href="INDEX06CB.HTM?id=368" target="_self"><span>Ebooks</span></a></li><li><a href="INDEXA1F1.HTM?id=1755" target="_self"><span>Collated</span></a></li><li><a href="INDEXDF25.HTM?id=4128" target="_self"><span>Multilingual Project</span></a></li><li><a href="INDEXABE4.HTM?id=3884" target="_self"><span>INHN Publisher</span></a></li></ul></div></div>
		<div id="main">
			<div id="teaser" class="clearfix"><div class="rootline">You are here: <a href="INDEXAF9F.HTM?id=355" target="_self">Controversies</a>&nbsp;/&nbsp;<a href="INDEXD39F.HTM?id=1665" target="_self">Barry Blackwell: Corporate Corruption in the Psychopharmaceutical Industry</a>&nbsp;/&nbsp;<a href="INDEXDF80.HTM?id=1720" target="_self">Mark Kramer’s comment</a>&nbsp;/&nbsp;Mark S. Kramer’s response to Barry Blackwell’s reply to Mark Kramer’s comments</div><div class="langMenu"><div class="tx-srlanguagemenu-pi1">
		
	</div>
	</div></div>
			<div id="col1">
				<div id="col1_content" class="clearfix">
					<ul id="submenu"><li id="title">Controversies</li><li><a href="INDEX01FF.HTM?id=3395" target="_self">Jay D. Amsterdam and Leemon B. McHenry: The Paroxetine 352 Bipolar Study Revisited: Deconstruction of Corporate and Academic Misconduct.</a><span class="hidden">.</span></li><li><a href="INDEXC230.HTM?id=486" target="_self">Thomas A. Ban: Conflict of interest in neuropsychopharmacology</a><span class="hidden">.</span></li><li><a href="INDEX2AF5.HTM?id=1342" target="_self">Thomas A. Ban: Development of our Vocabulary</a></li><li><a href="INDEX1BE7.HTM?id=3220" target="_self">Thomas A. Ban:  Education in Biological Psychiatry – Homage to Dr. Heinz E. Lehmann</a></li><li><a href="INDEXFB00.HTM?id=829" target="_self">Barry Blackwell: Adumbration; A history lesson</a><span class="hidden">.</span></li><li><a href="INDEX7196.HTM?id=3970" target="_self">Barry Blackwell: A Tale of Two Pioneers.</a></li><li><a href="INDEXD39F.HTM?id=1665" target="_self">Barry Blackwell: Corporate Corruption in the Psychopharmaceutical Industry</a><span class="hidden">.</span><ul><li><a href="INDEX2BB8.HTM?id=1675" target="_self">Jay D. Amsterdam, Leemon B. McHenry and Jon N. Jureidini’s commentary: Industry-Corrupted Psychiatric Trials</a><span class="hidden">.</span></li><li><a href="INDEX6CE8.HTM?id=1678" target="_self">Hector Warnes’ comment</a><span class="hidden">.</span></li><li><a href="INDEX732A.HTM?id=1710" target="_self">Donald F. Klein’s comment</a><span class="hidden">.</span></li><li><a href="INDEXDF80.HTM?id=1720" target="_self">Mark Kramer’s comment</a><span class="hidden">.</span><ul><li><a href="INDEX668D.HTM?id=1754" target="_self">Barry Blackwell’s reply to Mark S. Kramer</a></li><li><strong>Mark S. Kramer’s response to Barry Blackwell’s reply to Mark Kramer’s comments</strong></li><li><a href="INDEX3FFF.HTM?id=1735" target="_self">Samuel Gershon’s Comment on Kramer’s comment</a></li><li><a href="INDEXF20B.HTM?id=1771" target="_self">Mark Kramer’s reply to Samuel Gershon’s comment</a></li></ul></li><li><a href="INDEX012D.HTM?id=1793" target="_self">Samuel Gershon’s question</a></li><li><a href="INDEXE810.HTM?id=1809" target="_self">John M. Nardo’s comment</a><span class="hidden">.</span></li><li><a href="INDEXDF74_2.HTM?id=1836" target="_self">Samuel Gershon’s comment</a></li><li><a href="INDEX6187.HTM?id=1866" target="_self">Donald F. Klein’s comment on collated (November 17, 2016) document</a></li><li><a href="INDEX8664.HTM?id=1936" target="_self">Samuel Gershon’s comment -2</a></li><li><a href="INDEX83F3.HTM?id=1955" target="_self">Charles M. Beasley’s commentary</a><span class="hidden">.</span></li><li><a href="INDEX32DC.HTM?id=2104" target="_self">Barry Blackwell: Corporate corruption follow up</a></li><li><a href="INDEX14A6.HTM?id=2350" target="_self">Charles J. Beasley, Jr’s response to Barry Blackwell’s reply</a></li><li><a href="INDEX77C0.HTM?id=2957" target="_self">Barry Blackwell’s response 2 to Charles M. Beasley’s response 2</a></li><li><a href="INDEX0ACF.HTM?id=2468" target="_self">Jay Amsterdam’s comment on Charles Beasley’s response to Barry Blackwell’s reply to his comment</a></li><li><a href="INDEX9494.HTM?id=2613" target="_self">Charles Beasley’s reply to Jay Amsterdam’s comment on Beasley’s response to Barry Blackwell’s reply to his comment</a></li></ul></li><li><a href="INDEXF833.HTM?id=1944" target="_self">Barry Blackwell: Corporate Corruption in the Psychopharmaceutical Industry. Revised</a><span class="hidden">.</span></li><li><a href="INDEX8B56.HTM?id=778" target="_self">Barry Blackwell: The anxiety enigma</a><span class="hidden">.</span></li><li><a href="INDEX8B7A.HTM?id=2096" target="_self">Barry Blackwell: The Baby and The Bath Water</a><span class="hidden">.</span></li><li><a href="INDEX07C2.HTM?id=622" target="_self">Barry Blackwell: The lithium controversy: A historical autopsy</a><span class="hidden">.</span></li><li><a href="INDEX12D3.HTM?id=1369" target="_self">Pierre Baumann and Francois Ferrero: An official inqury of the clinical research activities (1946-1972) of Roland Kuhn (1912-2005)</a><span class="hidden">.</span></li><li><a href="INDEXA7C8.HTM?id=2954" target="_self">John Court: A note on the history of Anorexia Nervosa</a></li><li><a href="INDEX32F0.HTM?id=421" target="_self">Paul Devenyi: Addictions are not treatable diseases</a><span class="hidden">.</span></li><li><a href="INDEXE29D.HTM?id=477" target="_self">Paul Devenyi: Pharmacotherapy of addictions</a></li><li><a href="INDEXC591.HTM?id=3315" target="_self">Camille Drach Hojaij: Stein and Empathic Fulfilment.</a><span class="hidden">.</span></li><li><a href="INDEX3CB5.HTM?id=2526" target="_self">François Ferrero: Inquiry of the Geneva 1980s’ Psychiatry Crisis</a><span class="hidden">.</span></li><li><a href="INDEXC947.HTM?id=3727" target="_self">Max Fink: Reconceptualization of Catatonia.</a><span class="hidden">.</span></li><li><a href="INDEX3D6D.HTM?id=2322" target="_self">Ernst J. Franzek: From the dichotomy to a three-part grouping of endogenous psychoses</a><span class="hidden">.</span></li><li><a href="INDEX031F.HTM?id=3472" target="_self">Samuel Gershon: Brintellix  -  votioxetine</a></li><li><a href="INDEXCD60.HTM?id=3191" target="_self">Samuel Gershon: Device for naltrexone delivery</a></li><li><a href="INDEX8E42.HTM?id=3064" target="_self">Samuel Gershon: Ketamine, the “new” breakthrough in the treatment of depression</a><span class="hidden">.</span></li><li><a href="INDEX1823.HTM?id=2488" target="_self">Samuel Gershon: Lithium history</a><span class="hidden">.</span></li><li><a href="INDEX5D83.HTM?id=3646" target="_self">Samuel Gershon: The emergence of “new” drugs in recent years.</a></li><li><a href="INDEXFA6F.HTM?id=3375" target="_self">Samuel Gershon: The Tacrine paradigm.</a><span class="hidden">.</span></li><li><a href="INDEXF3E3.HTM?id=670" target="_self">Samuel Gershon: The trazodone cntrovery and its potential fatal consequences</a></li><li><a href="INDEX4A93.HTM?id=2894" target="_self">Ken Gillman: Medical science publishing: A slow-motion train wreck</a><span class="hidden">.</span></li><li><a href="INDEXDBE8.HTM?id=3720" target="_self">David Healy: Do Randomized Controlled Trials Add to or Subtract from Clinical Knowledge?</a><span class="hidden">.</span></li><li><a href="INDEX3202.HTM?id=1350" target="_self">David Healy: The shipwreck of the singular</a><span class="hidden">.</span></li><li><a href="INDEX2555.HTM?id=2447" target="_self">Hanfried Helmchen: The role of psychopharmacotherapy in the early development of social psychiatry in Germany</a><span class="hidden">.</span></li><li><a href="INDEXE41A.HTM?id=2095" target="_self">Carlos R. Hojaij: A Psychopathological Marker For Biological Psychiatry:  The Point of No Return and the “Something New&quot; *</a></li><li><a href="INDEX4C30.HTM?id=1823" target="_self">Carlos R. Hojaij: “DSM-5: The Future of Psychiatric Diagnosis” or Continuing the Psychiatry DiSMantlement</a><span class="hidden">.</span></li><li><a href="INDEX14F7.HTM?id=2103" target="_self">Carlos R. Hojaij: Psychiatry and Medicine</a></li><li><a href="INDEX711C.HTM?id=2118" target="_self">Carlos R. Hojaij: Towards a Psychiatric Biology</a></li><li><a href="INDEX61B8.HTM?id=3147" target="_self">David Janowsky: Cholinergic muscarinic mechanisms in depression and mania</a><span class="hidden">.</span></li><li><a href="INDEXC12C.HTM?id=3956" target="_self">Daniel Kanofsky and Mary E. Woesner: A Fresh Air Approach to COVID-19.</a><span class="hidden">.</span></li><li><a href="INDEX0B8F.HTM?id=530" target="_self">Martin M. Katz: Component-Specific vs. Diagnosis-Specific Clinical Trial in Depression</a><span class="hidden">.</span></li><li><a href="INDEXBDA3.HTM?id=594" target="_self">Martin M. Katz: Multivantaged vs. conventional assessment method</a><span class="hidden">.</span></li><li><a href="INDEX46C5.HTM?id=496" target="_self">Martin M. Katz: Onset of clinical action of antidepressants</a><span class="hidden">.</span></li><li><a href="INDEX94E9.HTM?id=1147" target="_self">Martin  M. Katz: The need and rationale for shortenng the clinical trial for antidepressants</a></li><li><a href="INDEXB724.HTM?id=2329" target="_self">Donald F. Klein, Max Fink, Edward Shorter and Thomas A. Ban: Comment exchange on Flagrant Catatonic Behavior.</a><span class="hidden">.</span></li><li><a href="INDEXA16A.HTM?id=1625" target="_self">Joseph Knoll: Controversies on selegiline/(-)-deprenyl’s  pharmacological spectrum after more than 50 years of its development</a></li><li><a href="INDEX98B4.HTM?id=2771" target="_self">Magda Malewska-Kasprzak, Agnieszka Permoda-Osip, Janusz Rybakowski:Disturbances of the purinergic system in affective disorders and schizophrenia</a><span class="hidden">.</span></li><li><a href="INDEXBB29.HTM?id=4134" target="_self">Trudo Lemmens. “Medical Assistance in Dying” (Euthanasia and Assisted Suicide) in Canada: A Case Raises Questions About Its Use in Patients with Disability and Mental Illness.</a><span class="hidden">.</span></li><li><a href="INDEXEBA9.HTM?id=3891" target="_self">Amy S. F. Lutz: The Rise and Fall of the Dexamethasone Suppression Test: Stability, Consensus, Closure.</a><span class="hidden">.</span></li><li><a href="INDEX41D4.HTM?id=3252" target="_self">Gin S. Malhi: A critical analysis of concepts in psychiatry</a><span class="hidden">.</span></li><li><a href="INDEXD25B.HTM?id=2701" target="_self">Antonio E. Nardi, Richard Balon, Guy Chouinard, Fiammetta Cosci, Steven Dubovsky, Giovanni A. Fava, Rafael C. Freire, David J. Greenblatt, John H. Krystal, Karl Rickels, Thomas Roth, Carl Salzman, Richard I. Shader, Edward K. Silberman, Nicoletta Sonino,</a><span class="hidden">.</span></li><li><a href="INDEX4CFC.HTM?id=2972" target="_self">János Radó: Renal Toxicity of Lithium in Historical Perspective with Special Reference To Nephrogenic Diabetes Insipidus and its Treatment</a><span class="hidden">.</span></li><li><a href="INDEXD26F.HTM?id=3140" target="_self">Janos Radó: Desmopressin may counteract polyuria in lithium-induced nephrogenic diabetes insipidus. Review of the literature</a><span class="hidden">.</span></li><li><a href="INDEX13F5.HTM?id=1248" target="_self">Shridhar Sharma: Insulin coma treatment: Facts and controversies</a><span class="hidden">.</span></li><li><a href="INDEX5461.HTM?id=390" target="_self">Edward Shorter: The Q-T interval and the Mellaril story - a cautionary tale</a><span class="hidden">.</span></li><li><a href="INDEX70B9.HTM?id=2755" target="_self">Leonardo Tondo: Brief History of Suicide in Western Cultures</a><span class="hidden">.</span></li><li><a href="INDEX7938.HTM?id=2000" target="_self">Hector Warnes: The gut-brain axis</a><span class="hidden">.</span></li><li><a href="INDEXEABE.HTM?id=3450" target="_self">Hector Warnes: Pyridoxine in the treatment of lithium-induced tremor.</a><span class="hidden">.</span></li></ul>
					
					<div class="textBelowMenu"><!--TYPO3SEARCH_begin--><!--TYPO3SEARCH_end--></div>
				</div>
			</div>
			<div id="col2">
				<div id="col2_content" class="clearfix"><!--TYPO3SEARCH_begin--><!--TYPO3SEARCH_end--></div>
			</div>
			<div id="col3">
			  <a id="content" name="content"></a>
				<div id="col3_content" class="clearfix">
					<div class="floatbox"><!--TYPO3SEARCH_begin--><div id="c3467" class="csc-default"><h1><span style="font-weight: normal; ">Barry Blackwell: Corporate Corruption in the Psychopharmaceutical Industry</span></h1>
<h2><b>Mark S. Kramer’s response to</b>&nbsp;<b>Barry Blackwell’s reply to Mark Kramer’s comments</b></h2>
<p><i>(Addendum: Please note that Barry Blackwell originally commented on my very first draft – the one I hastily submitted to INHN for what seemed to be its September 29<sup>th</sup>&nbsp;deadline. Upon learning that was not the drop-dead date, I requested and readily received an opportunity to clean up my draft with which I had not been very happy (in terms of flow, logic, critical omissions, and a general quirkiness,) I did this without input from any other party or network.&nbsp; In the meantime, Barry commented on my first draft.&nbsp; Without benefit of reviewing my final version, he then appropriately added an addendum in which he addresses some of the revisions within my second draft.&nbsp; All of this now seems to be in order, and I have every reason to be happy with the process, and with no need to respond to his fine addendum! I hope he is happy, as well.)&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;</i></p>
<p>I treasure Barry Blackwell’s response to my long-winded commentary. &nbsp;I was inspired on a number of counts: 1) Barry’s response is a role model in humility, 2) his reminder that he and I have similar backgrounds, have embraced similar viewpoints, and that these span the generation gap, 3) he allowed my passion to exist non-judgmentally, and 4) he actually read the sprawl!&nbsp; To put things right, I’d like to clarify a few issues that Barry raised. &nbsp;</p>
<p><b><i>Biological psychiatry as a discrete biological discipline</i></b></p>
<p>“Mark defends its integrity as a discrete discipline, is somewhat dismissive of psychosocial approaches and is concerned about disparagement by the anti-psychiatry movement. While I share this latter concern, I view biological psychiatry as part of a biopsychosocial matrix in the understanding and treatment of psychiatric disorders that is consistent with first person accounts by the pioneers . . .”</p>
<p>No matter its state of maturation, the biological portion of psychiatry needs to be practiced within a rational psychosocial framework.&nbsp; The psychosocial framework, however branded, is sadly disappearing from much of medicine and surgery. I regard it as a requirement for optimal results in each sub-specialty of medicine - no more or less spanning from psychiatry to medical oncology. &nbsp;&nbsp;<i>To clarify</i>:&nbsp; For what it’s worth, reductionism to biology alone in Psychiatry or any other medical specialty (including surgery!) is just plain bad medicine. &nbsp;&nbsp;</p>
<p>Far from wildly dismissing psychosocial factors as contributing to etiology or practicing (or addressing) them as treatment, I nevertheless do unimaginatively question whether particular brandings of psychosocial practice warrant consideration as specific, needed, or sufficient for diagnosis and treatment.&nbsp; The control groups that could provide data for at least determining&nbsp;<b><i>specific efficacy&nbsp;</i></b>of non-drug/device interventions (on their own or synergistically with drugs/devices) are lacking or are just are not persuasive.&nbsp;</p>
<p>My own experience suggests that psychosocial components of treatment are beneficial,&nbsp;<i>even crucial,</i>&nbsp;but likely do not warrant&nbsp;<b><i>specific branding.&nbsp;&nbsp;</i></b>&nbsp;&nbsp;Mine is merely a personal&nbsp;belief&nbsp;awaiting scientific scrutiny, more than already afforded. To that end, I have earnestly plunged into the literature on control groups in CBT and the legion of non-medical interventions of Psychiatry /Psychology. &nbsp;My belief is also formed by personal apprenticeships in general medicine (and in psychiatry [happily with pioneers of behavioral, cognitive, group/family therapies, and psychoanalysis {the latter which I received and ‘finished’ as part of training}).&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>
<p>Attention, compassion, and a genuine ‘getting to know patients as whole people’ are common to all psychosocial practices with which I am familiar.&nbsp; Far from the mere benefits of placebo expectation, these practices seem to enhance compliance (with either medication, drug holidays, toughing-out uncertainty, and repeat appointments), intrinsically offer some hope, consolation, make possible negotiation and acceptance of tough-love/advice, and provide a reassuring anchor for patients who’d be otherwise bobbing in turbulent seas. Much the same can be said the way a prescription of a psycho-pharmaceutical or placebo pill is offered.&nbsp; Unfortunately, sessions for medication assessment and adjustment are way too short, as reimbursed, for any psychosocial repartee to flourish substantially.</p>
<p>As the pathophysiology (-ies) for each main syndrome in biological psychiatry become known, I do shamelessly envision biological psychiatry as initially becoming a discrete non-gamed biopsychosocial medical discipline, just like any other. &nbsp;Then, with history as our guide (e.g., tertiary syphilis, Lyme disease, Irritable Bowel Disease, Gastric Ulcers, Thyroid disorders, etc.) biological psychiatry will be absorbed piecemeal into other disciplines, e.g., infectious disease, immunology, neo-endocrinology etc. In other words, until we have biomarkers for our most alarming behavioral syndromes, Psychiatry will continue ingloriously to function as a pay-toilet for medicine’s behaviorally tainted idiopathic syndromes.</p>
<p>The term - “biopsychosocial” – when it is invoked as a model for diagnosis and treatment in Psychiatry – conveys a most annoying compromise. &nbsp;My view owes to an absence of persuasive data on the comparative efficacy of psychosocial interventions. Given the limitation of devising bullet proof talk-therapy controls, and as qualified, &nbsp;pioneers and neophytes alike still lack persuasive&nbsp;data&nbsp;on 1) whether psychiatric psychosocial methods are any more specific/ effective than our local bartenders’, priests’, mentors’, friends’ ears and counsel, 2) thresholds upon which psychosocial methods (in terms of duration, frequency and type) should be supplemented with biological approaches, and 3) determinates by which the relative emphasis for diagnosis and treatment must shift from psychosocial to biological per course and type of behavioral deviation.&nbsp; &nbsp;If these considerations delineate our “biopsychosocial matrix”, then the “matrix” begs to be populated with data. &nbsp;While practice of medicine is the art of applied science, unfortunately Psychiatry remains mostly art.&nbsp;</p>
<p>It may not seem evident, but formulation of a treatment plan for a patient with a broken bone has much in common with that for one with a “broken pattern of behavior.”&nbsp; Both require investigation of psychosocial components for diagnosis and treatment.&nbsp; However, the “biopsychosocial matrix” of Orthopedics generally includes a means to determine when a given bone break requires physical (bio) intervention, when psychosocial treatment alone would constitute either appropriate or mal- practice, or when both are required. &nbsp;&nbsp;Except for our most disabling most stereotypical presentations, psychiatry lacks such objectivity.&nbsp; In Orthopedics the biopsychosocial framework (“matrix”) is generally exactly actionable. For Psychiatry, it is not.&nbsp; Is it asking too much for it to be so, someday?</p>
<p><b><i>Let’s innovate a Huxley style SOMA – Not!</i></b></p>
<p>&nbsp;“Mark likens this to SOMA in Aldous Huxley’s “Brave New World” in which one character declares, “Hug me honey, drug me honey; half a gram of soma, hug me honey, drug me honey, till I’m in a coma.”</p>
<p>Love the lyrics, Barry!</p>
<p>&nbsp;<i>To clarify</i>: Judging from sales of fluoxetine and its cousins, society seems to want/need a Huxley SOMA. Antidepressants are not it.&nbsp; By no means have I suggested that this is a goal for innovation in psycho-pharmaceuticals. Of course, discovery of mood-energy elevating recreational drugs beyond caffeine, nicotine, amphetamines, methylphenidate, modafinil, L-DOPA, and ketamine (without physical addiction, tolerance, systemic AEs) for healthy individuals would be a controversially non-medical product, but nevertheless a triumph in neuroscience.&nbsp; My concern is that upon beholding the huge market size of demoralized citizens of the world, industry may pursue this as a non-medical product. This they have already done with medicalized nootropics, hoping to generalize medical indications such as mental retardation, ADHD, neurodegenerative syndromes, or post traumatic brain injury to off label use as “SOMA” for our dysfunctional society. &nbsp;&nbsp;Already it is a $billion market. &nbsp;&nbsp;</p>
<p><b><i>Coincidental decline of antidepressant use and increase in recreational drugs</i></b></p>
<p>A [SOMA] . . . is hardly different from the street recreational drugs that Mark speculates might have triggered a decline in SSRI prescriptions.&nbsp; &nbsp;</p>
<p><i>To clarify</i>: &nbsp;The theory is that as antidepressants have gone off patent, “happy pill marketing” has plummeted, and so has public adoration of fluoxetine and its cousins. &nbsp;&nbsp;Once considered by some a type of “Huxley SOMA” for demoralization/dispirited unrest, people might be replacing their antidepressants with recreational drugs. It is hard to say, because prevalence of recreational drug use seems to cycle every ~20 years for unknown reasons. &nbsp;Frankly, this political season provides data galore on why vast swaths of humanity are appropriately dispirited; why after the polls close in November, many will be hitting local taprooms or hooka-bars for group consolation - numbing of minds and hearts.&nbsp; This, perhaps an appropriate short term fix on election night, is hardly a long term solution for a political depravity that consistently diminishes quality of life for most of “we the people.”&nbsp;&nbsp; While our ‘Frank Underwoods” may wish such a solution, the effects of current political degeneracy on society requires some sort of revolution, not mitigation by psycho-pharmaceuticals or therapies.</p>
<p>Frank Berger, discoverer of meprobamate, the first anxiolytic, believed emphatically that medication was not a substitute for philosophical or psychotherapeutic interventions in treating the troubles of daily living. (See the review of his book, published posthumously in INHN Biographies).</p>
<p>Agreed, mostly.&nbsp; As above, my question is whether treating troubles of daily living requires a licensed psychotherapist. (e.g., Dawes 1994; Furukawa et al. 2014) Has it been demonstrated that the latter helps improve one’s life any more than can a trusted friend, spiritual person, amateur masseuse, wine tasting group, or the neighborhood’s backyard BBQ philosopher?&nbsp; Of course, myriad papers and books already claim that licensed therapists are required. &nbsp;As the most derided and controversial medical discipline of all, Psychiatry cannot afford to be fooled by such consensus.&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;</p>
<p>I suppose people who cannot reach out to trustworthy buddies, or who burn them out, must hire “professional fellows” for their tune ups. &nbsp;As to receiving problem solving advice or just the vetting of any confusing feelings/ thoughts, I’d sooner initially appreciate the wisdom of life-long friends, than qualified therapists. If not satisfying, then I’d not be opposed to vetting trained coaches or therapists. &nbsp;</p>
<p><b><i>On some of my less than diplomatic comments</i></b></p>
<p>Mark still claims I was “seduced and became a publicist” for Whitaker.</p>
<p>Mea Culpa! (beating chest.)&nbsp; &nbsp;I thought I may have missed something, but already my freight train was roaring along at full throttle.&nbsp; It only seems appropriate to don a hair shirt while ingesting some phenelzine, a carafe of Chianti, Gorgonzola and Swedish gravlax on sourdough bread.&nbsp; &nbsp;Indeed, you did crosscheck some of Whitaker’s embellishments with Fuller Torrey’s writings. &nbsp;Darn! No disrespect intended to Barry, but as to Whitaker . . . &nbsp;&nbsp;</p>
<p><b><i>Solutions to Government Aspect of Corruption</i></b></p>
<p>As you say a knowledgeable approach to government is critically needed to stem the corruption.&nbsp;&nbsp; I just listed the branches.&nbsp; About the ways to do so, I do not have a clue. You also presented a list of government targets as well as new allocation of public funds among them. &nbsp;These suggestions do require analysis. &nbsp;I am naturally tempted to dig in, but for practical reasons at this time I’m compelled to simply enjoy the forthcoming wisdom of those already undertaking to resolve this aspect of our quagmire.&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><b><i>In closing</i></b></p>
<p>Thank you for your vote of confidence re my leading a New National Drug Evaluation Unit.&nbsp; Based on the present NIMH multi-year plan and the deafening silence of NIMH in response to my comments on it, I think public service is not in my cards. &nbsp;&nbsp;Dispassionately, I am neither sufficiently bright or sly to navigate that service.</p>
<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I too very much look forward to comments from colleagues on INHN. &nbsp;&nbsp;Thanks. Barry, for a masterful stirring of the pot.&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><b><i>References</i></b></p>
<p>Dawes, R. 1994. “House of Cards: Psychology and Psychotherapy Built on Myth.”&nbsp;<i>JAMA: The Journal of the American Medical Association</i>&nbsp;272: 1465–1465.</p>
<p>Furukawa, T. A. et al. 2014. “Waiting List May Be a Nocebo Condition in Psychotherapy Trials: A Contribution from Network Meta-Analysis.”&nbsp;<i>Acta Psychiatrica Scandinavica</i>&nbsp;130(3): 181–92.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Mark S. Kramer</p>
<p>November 24, 2016&nbsp;</p></div><!--TYPO3SEARCH_end--></div>
				</div>
				<div id="ie_clearing">&nbsp;</div>
			</div>
		</div>
		<div id="footer">&copy; INHN 2012-2022 ::: INHN Central Office  · Av. Sagrada Familia Esq Nazaret · Córdoba, Córdoba X5000 · Argentina  ::: email: inhn@inhn.org</div>
	</div>
</div>





<script src="IMAGES/URCHIN.JS" type="text/javascript">
</script>
<script type="text/javascript">
_uacct = "UA-39727086-1";
urchinTracker();
</script>
</body>
</html>